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That's The Flatline with Rick Hughes, every Sunday at 8 a.m. right here on KNCO News Talk 830. Well, hello there, folks. Welcome to the Master Gardener radio show. I'm Master Gardener Christine Smith. And Sharon Curry. Yay. And we're here to take your calls and questions. And our program is brought to you by the University of California Cooperative Extension, the United States Department of Agriculture, Nevada County Master Gardeners, and KNCO News Talk Radio, along with all their fine sponsors. And the purpose of the University of California Master Gardener program is to inspire foothill home gardeners to embrace research-based, sustainable gardening practices so our community and environment thrive. On that note, we want to hear from you. We know y'all have questions about gardening. We all do. Even after over 20 years as a Master Gardener, I have questions every day. And there's always more to learn. And we love sharing what we know with all of you. So give us a call at 530-477-5626. And we also have a text line where you can send photos or questions, comments, whatever works for you. And that number is 530-913-4685. Okay, I've done our duty. Yeah. I can put that little paper away. There's probably something interesting to talk about today. We do. You know, with gardening, there's always something interesting to talk about, I think. Or look at, whatever. What's new with you, Sharon? Gosh, autumn is a very busy time in the garden. It's busy going to sleep, but there's still so much to do. I made a list. Oh, good girl. Yeah. Oh, let's see some of the ideas. What do you do with your yard? Well, and I also am on the propagation team at the demonstration garden. So the same things are happening there that are happening in my garden, and I'm busy doing some things that are really appropriate for this time of year. So I'm dividing plants that are in my yard. So you have a giant clump of yarrow or something like that. Big batch of daylilies. Anything that clumps underground. You can dig them up very carefully so you get the whole root ball. Wear gloves if you don't like getting dirty. I don't. I'm not a glove gardener. I never used to be, but since I've gotten older, I'm so tired of losing all my fingernails. Well, mine are hardly ever clean, but... Well, no, that goes without saying. We're gardeners. So you're just going to break them up into clumps, however many clumps you want, or however many clumps the plant tells you that it wants to divide in. It's one of those things that you get the hang of how to separate with repeated doings. Mostly I'm using one gallon, the black one-gallon containers. You can find those for free everywhere because I don't think we have a recycling plan for those. They don't recycle them anymore, and that's a crying shame. So the best thing we can do is reuse them. Exactly. They're available for free everywhere. You can get those. You put some soil in there, and you put your divided plants in there, much like you'd plant them in the ground. What you do after that depends on the plant, really. So for instance, I divided some plants that have tiny little bulbs. They're so small. Yeah. And I just didn't feel like... Little blitz. Yes. The weather, depending on where you have them, is going to depend on what you do with it. You can't just chuck them in a pot and put them outside. They're probably not going to do particularly well. Do well, yeah. So I actually brought those little guys in and put them on a heat mat to help them get situated. Well, see, that's a good thing to do because it'll warm up the soil, and that will encourage those little bulblets to kick out some roots, and that'll make them, right there, self-sustaining once they get some roots going on, and they get some water, and light, and all the rest of the good things. Yeah. They're encouraged to live instead of die. Amen! So I'm doing that. I'm doing some hardwood cuttings. This is the time of year where you can do hardwood. We don't do the softwood now. That's just going to be too cold, but some hardwood cuttings. So I am taking those cuttings. You try and have three nodes on the branch that you cut off. You try and get the one-year-old branches. So again, you've got a one-gallon pot. You've got some soil in there. I'm using rooting hormone on those. Yeah, that's a good idea to encourage. You can get the powdered, but in the propagation garden, we use a gel that works, actually. Oh, I used that once and had zero success. Oh, I've used them both, and I guess they both work. Yeah, and you had success with the gel. Yeah, with both of them. I might have had my timing wrong. Maybe, yeah. The trick to that is placing the cuttings towards the edge of your pot. People want to put them in the middle, but you can cram four or five into a pot, and you place them around the edge. The reason for that is it's easier to keep them moist, and they've kind of got some structure because of the back of the pot behind them. So that's what I do, and you have to plant them deep enough to make sure there's at least one node underneath the dirt. I used to do crazy propagation for the plant sales, because I had a huge greenhouse. It worked, and then my new place, no way. I don't even have enough sun to grow tomatoes. I always would do two nodes underneath, and usually one or two up top, usually just one. But yeah, I used to propagate a boatload. That was so fun. I think if you have a couple leaves at the top, it's great, but you don't always have to have that. Yeah, yeah, so true, so true. So much fun. All righty, folks, we have to take a break, and we'll talk more about gardening when we come back. The roots run deep for me, Margie Carr, owner of Reflection Skin Oasis. My dad and grandmother came to Nevada City on the Narrow Gauge Railroad in the 1930s. 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That's The Flotline with Rick Hughes, every Sunday at 8 a.m. right here on KNCO News Talk 830. Welcome back to the Master Gardeners and Friends radio show. I'm Master Gardener Christine Smith and Sharon Curry. Yay! And we were just talking about some of the things that we do in the fall around the yard. It's a pretty busy time. You know, if anybody's got roses, this is a pivotal time for roses too, not so much in doing, but not doing. It's really hard not to go in there and chop, chop, chop because they're all, you know, not performing. Looking a little done. But really there's a lot of work to do there because, you know, you want to leave a few roses so you've got some rose hips. Yeah. You know, the rose hips are a really important source of vitamin C for birds over the winter. Besides that, they look really cool. You go to your garden, it looks dead, but you've got like a little orange or red thing going on. And it's like, what's that? It's like, you know, you get color even in the wintertime. You do. It's kind of a stark beauty. Yeah. It's like, you know, one thing I love, persimmons. Because you get that beautiful color in the dead of winter. Yeah. And that's just, I think that's kind of magical. That's really beautiful. You know, it really is. You know, we have to clean up any dead leaves on the ground below the roses. Oh yeah. You have to clean all that up. That's just a disease factory. Oh, it is. And, you know, anybody that's grown roses, we know, we really, they can get awful. Yeah. They can. And black spots. With the diseases. Black spots, rust. Oh my God, my mama had this rose and its blooms were gorgeous. But it had rust so bad. And you know, it took, she had that thing for years, never did anything about it. But now looking back, I realize that the reason why it was always so badly covered in rust is it didn't have proper air circulation. She grew it on a rather tight fence. And so it was always on the fence. And so one whole side didn't get any air. Yeah, it just didn't get air. And that's one thing that roses, they need and appreciate. They gotta have good air circulation to keep those nasty diseases away. Because they're just God awful ugly. They don't need a lot, but they do need all of what they need. You know, air, sufficient water, and, you know, the maintenance of them. It starts this time of year so I'm going through all the roses and I have quite a few around. If your place is amenable to roses, you know I can't have them because of the deer and I don't have the fencing. But they're so beautiful. They really are. You can't hardly resist getting them. You find the varietals you like. So we do have that little beetle, it's a little tiny flying beetle during the summer that targets the lighter roses, so the whites, the yellows and they're merciless little. It's not the thrips? No, these are little flying, tiny little flying beetles and they come and they disappear every year but they suck all the life out of the buds and they'll get into the middle of your rose and just destroy it. They wreck it. It's so disappointing. They're horrible little monsters. I don't have any light roses. Yeah, I can understand why not. I only had the one at the other house, the Double Delight, which is so beautiful. And it's a combo color, you know. It had light, dark, you know. And the scent of that one. My favorite is the Ingrid Bergman. You don't see it a lot. Yeah. Is it a yellow? No, it's a deep, deep red. It's one of the most beautiful red roses there are and it does very well here in Zone 9. And it's a tall rose. I only have tall roses, I don't like little shrimpy guys. It's a tall rose and it blooms. It's still blooming right now. Really? It blooms from spring all the way to the first frost. It's just a beautiful rose. As pretty as Mr. Lincoln? I think so. I do. Really? And a nice scent? And it's a real performer. I don't care about the scent so much, but I want it. I want it to be a hearty, beautiful, easy keeper. And then my second favorite is the Peace Rose. Not the pink Peace, but the original Peace. It is a gorgeous, big, pink rose and it blooms not quite as long as Anchor Bird, but it's a long bloomer. That is, without a doubt, a stunning, stunning rose. It is. But that is my number one rule with roses. I have two rules. They have to be tall. They have to be tall. They have to be tall. And they have to have continuous or multiple bloom stages throughout the season. The one-time bloomers, it's like, well, that's it. That's it. That's it until next year. You're not getting the mustard, kid. So I like a lot of long bloomers. I totally get that. Absolutely. Yeah. And people are shopping for roses. They don't always know that those are options. Oh, yeah. Roses are, I mean, as with so many plants, so many different types, with so many characteristics. Hybrid teas, floribundas, grandifloras. And now they've got the shrub roses, they often call them landscape roses. Whole different animals, you know. They're not my bag. No, in England, the shrub roses are a different thing. Well, because I think they're a wild, rambling, beautiful type of rose. Yeah, they're more of a giant bush. They usually bloom all year, and they're not for everybody's garden because they get quite large. Big, big, big, big. Yeah. Yeah. Those are a different animal. They are. But, oh, gosh, yeah. Roses are so beautiful. I love that, Mr. Lincoln. I had to have the big scent when I, because I went through a rose phase. And, oh, I would, so I would do the research, and, you know, good disease resistance, when that was one of my things, good disease resistance, and then scent. And, oh, yeah. I had some very nice roses, but, you know, everybody always knew at work when I had worked on my roses over the weekend, because I'd be all, oh, man, yeah, because I was not a glove wearer when I was young. Oh, roses are one of those places where you probably want them. You should. Yeah, you definitely should. Well, I have a rose called a Hanza, which is very unusual. I bought it a couple of years ago, and it actually looks tropical. Oh, really? Yeah, it looks like a tropical plant, and it gets a funny, funny little rose sort of flower on it. Uh-huh. The thorns are ridiculous. Wicked, huh? Yeah, they just are. And I have to say, I don't really enjoy it that much, so I'm going to. It might go bye-bye. I'm going to re-home it. Yeah, yeah. We're re-homing it. Anybody? Yeah, just because it's a rose doesn't mean you're going to like it. Exactly. Oh, yeah. They're quite, the differences are truly amazing. Really vast. Yeah. Yeah, very, very vast. Very vast. It's expensive to buy, so it's kind of like an expensive experiment, so with the tools we have today for investigation, you can just refine your search to zone nine, ever flowering, tall, whatever you want. It's so cool. Yeah. I mean, yeah. When I had my roses, there was no internet. Yeah. That was a while ago. Word of mouth was our internet. Yeah. Yeah. And books. And books. Because, see, I'm like a major bookworm, and so I pretty much never made a book I didn't like. Have you read the Encyclopedia of Roses? Oh, my. No. Holy smokes. I have one. Yeah. It's a tome. Believe me. Oh, yeah. I bet. You can learn so much about roses by just reading through them, but it is quite large and I don't even know if it's in print anymore, but you can find them online. Yeah. I buy used books online, because otherwise I'd drive myself into the poorhouse. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. Thrift books and I are very good friends. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's my source, too. And the way I read, you know, fiction books, yeah. I got to get a discount on this action. I agree. I agree. Well, we have two great used bookstores here in town, so we're very, very fortunate to have that. Yeah. It's really nice. I know. I love it. I love, well, you know. I don't know if you've ever been. My favorite book place is Powell's Books up in Portland, Oregon. Oh. It's in downtown Portland. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. They got their own coffee shop inside. Oh, nice. It's humongous and there's books on every subject you can think of. So it's like a treasure hunt in there for me because every topic I have any interest in, there's something there I can find. And I could be there all day. This is what we do for our grandkids for Christmas gifts, for the, especially the grandkids that are far away. Most of our grandkids are far away, but we give them a gift certificate to a bookstore in town. Good. Oh, good grandma. And they, especially our kids in Idaho, and they all go down and have a shopping spree on books. Oh, that's so fun. That's cool. That's cool. That's what, yeah, I used to give my kids books all the time and we'd always, we were big readers and they are bookworms as a result, too, so I'm, life is good to me. Absolutely. Well, what are you doing in your garden? Well, I have somebody cleaning up my yard and I've been, you know, way behind for quite some time and for all kinds of reasons. And so the blackberries are getting ripped out. They are on fire right now, too. Oh God, tell me. Yeah. Yeah. Start going to grab me by the legs, you know, by the ankles. And those are going bye bye. All the cleaning up, you know, I'm not going to be doing propagation anymore. So I'd already gotten rid of a boatload of empty pots, you know. We're gardeners. Anybody that's a gardener goes, oh yeah, the empty pots. We all have a pile of them somewhere. Some folks manage to keep them nice and neat and, you know, others, yeah, it's all over the place. Well, I just had so many stacks of empty pots and I finally said, OK, girlfriend, it's time to let them go. It's time to let them go. I don't have a greenhouse anymore. It's just not going to work. So they're all in the dump pile. So I'll be busy doing dump runs here this coming week and I'm thrilled to get my property cleaned up. It's such a good feeling. Oh, it is. I feel a whole rejuvenation, especially blackberry. Oh, man, they're so brutal. And I've just gotten so much cleaned up. Well, I've gotten so much. No, he's done the work. Your helper has. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. And I'm just so thankful they get that stuff cleaned up because I got stuff I'm doing in the house, you know, all the usual stuff that you have to do when you have a house. Well, I understand the blackberry, you can't put it in the green waste section of the dump. So if you're cleaning up your yard, you've got blackberry and other stuff not to commingle them or else everything has to go in the dump. So you can't put any blackberry in the garden waste section of the dump. It has to go in the dump dump. So in the pit. Yeah. If you're conscious about recycling your green waste, which we all should be, you should make separate piles for the blackberry and the green waste so that we can help keep stuff out of the dump. Yeah. I yeah, that's a that's a good thing. That's a good thing. For sure. We learned that the hard way. Really? Yeah. Rejected. Yeah. And folks. Oh, rejection. Yikes. We'll talk more about that when we come back from this break. Hi, I'm Pat Dyer of Utopian Stone. There's something special about seeing a hometown kid follow his dreams and come home to share them. That's why we're proud to sponsor Johnny Houlihan coming home concert. This Nevada City boy has made his mark in country music. 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Yes, and Sharon, you wanted to share a few more tidbits about roses. I had a few notes to myself to share. You know, we don't prune this time of year, but there is some work for your pruners to do. We can remove any crossing branches in there. We can chop away anything that's dead or spindly. You don't want to cut too much out because you don't want to spur regrowth. Yeah, at this time of year. Yeah, that's for the spring. If you've got climbers, I have quite a few climbers. This time of year, I leave the main branches, which are tied to a fence. I'm going to remove any cross branches and I'm going to remove any little spindly ones that are not going to do anything next year. Or pointing the wrong way out, usually. Basically, you're creating the framework for next year without a hard prune. For the climbers, when early spring rolls around, do you do more hard pruning? Yeah, then I'm going to give it the shape that I want it to have. I might reduce it down to three good canes at that point. That's a hard pruning. I'm going to cut away everything else. They're such vigorous growers. If you don't, they get to be ugly and have less blooms. My mama had a Cecil Bruner. Now, she lived in Fremont, so compared to here, very mild winters. Oh my goodness, that thing tried to take over her entire front yard. If she hadn't gotten out there, I'd come visit her and that rose would be going nuts. It was great, but so beautiful. Really beautiful. I love those little flowers. Yeah, but you do have to help them help themselves. Absolutely, yeah. Then, potted roses. A lot of people have roses in big pots. Take them in some place. Oh, really? Under an eave, close to the house. Don't just leave them out there in the weather to try and survive. This year, we're going to be getting torrential downfalls. They're just going to have root rot. A suggestion, remove the saucers. We are going to have torrential downpours, lots and lots of water. We don't want them to be sitting in a full saucer. That's root rot, right? Waiting to happen. Remove saucers from your outdoor container. If you have wind, wind is not your friend. No, that dries out pots fast. If you've got long branches, they'll just whip and snap off. Just a little bit of work to protect them. Yeah, so you just kind of... They'll be ready for next year. ...are very light pruning now. Just the deadwood, the crossing branches. Deadwoods, crosses, and ones that are boinging out in many directions. If things get real harsh, the weather, they'll be convenient and uniformly sized to be able to wrap them if you need to. If you want to. Yeah, if you want to. If you've got specialty roses that cost a lot of money, you'd want to. Yeah, you want to protect them. That was kind of the... Did that cover your rose tips? That kind of covered the roses. It's always good. I worked in plant nurseries for many years. My semi-retirement job, I always called it. I was there for a love of plants. Right. I always got lots and lots of questions about roses. Folks want to learn about them, so they can have the best roses possible. Well, they fit in any garden. Yeah, pretty much. They really do. Whatever style you have, there's a place for roses. For a rose. They're so lovely. They really are. They're just so lovely. I love the scent of roses. They give so much. The Queen Elizabeth. My Queen Elizabeth is packed with flowers right now. Oh, my goodness. Absolutely inundated with flowers. Wow. You can shop for that. I would encourage listeners to really think about what they want out of that plant. Exactly, yeah. And not to limit your thinking, because there's a rose for whatever it is you're looking for. Oh, man, isn't there? If you go online and Rose Societies, oh, my goodness. It's like being a kid in a candy shop. I swear to goodness sakes, yeah. It truly is. Because, you know, I'm kind of goofy. I get so excited about plants. I was talking to my daughter and her friend last night, and we were kind of having a little sleepover, about the double file viburnum. And so I was explaining to them how beautiful. And I had this friend I used to work with, and she had one in her backyard that was so beyond spectacular. What's it called again? A double file viburnum. Okay. And it's just a beautiful shrub. Is it tall? Tall, yeah, about eight foot tall. And it comes out in, like, layers. And my daughter kept going, get your phone, get your phone, get your phone, show me the pictures. Well, I'm going to have to buy one of those now. Oh, man. Thanks a lot, another plant. Well, you know, find a space that can showcase it because it's beautiful up close and from afar. It's got just fabulous. How long does it flower? Oh, I can't answer that. I don't know. Because what did my friend say? No, I don't know. I couldn't tell you. I'm going to look it up here and show you the pictures. Oh, there. Because it's just so cool. And it has white flowers. And there's all different ways to prune them. There's a lot of different ways to prune everything. Or you can just leave it. Or you can leave it. But this friend of mine, she had that thing so layered and it looked so cool. They just grow that way? Yeah. Well, she had to have done some magic. Let's see here. Oh, well, a couple more things about roses. I'm not fertilizing this time of year. And when I do fertilize, I always use liquid fish emulsion. Oh, I love that. Yeah. You know, all plants love that. I use it on everything. It's one of the, anything from the sea, I do the fish or seaweed. Seaweed, yeah. And every one of my plants positively responds. Yeah, I have a sprayer, you know, on my house. Just a dilution. I do the mostly meal form because I just find that to be, it works for me. You know, it's so wonderful that so many things, there's more than one way to do it. There is. And so you just find the method that works for you. Well, in other countries, it's interesting to find out what other countries do for that same plant. I bet, yeah. There's all kinds of different things. That would be pretty fascinating, I bet. History, they've developed their own ways and different soils. We're so creative people, and we mine for the things that are available in our areas and adapt and modify, and ya, ya, ya. And we have to take another break, folks, so we will be right back. Music Just by listening to KNCO's On the Half Hour or Morning Newscast, you could pick up a valuable prize with the News Quiz Contest. Prizes might be movie passes, pizza, car washes, and much more. KNCO's local newscasts are Monday through Friday, twice an hour between 6 and 9 a.m., and the rest of the day at half past the hour. Join us for the most comprehensive local news in town, then get ready to answer a question about one of the stories to win the prize of the day. Weekdays on KNCO News Talk 830. Wow, that was a super fast break. Welcome back, folks, to Master Gardeners and Friends. This is a two-way radio show, so give us a call at 530-477-5626 with your questions and comments. And I'm here today with... Sharon Curry, Master Gardener. Yeah, and we're just having fun. We've been chatting about all kinds of things. Okay, wait a minute. Oh, one of the things, big things for fall. Fall's the best time to do, I call them foundation plantings, which are trees, you know, major shrubs. Definitely. The real keystones of a garden. Yeah. Because the plants, if you plant them in the fall, they have a chance to get established, their root systems, over the winter, and they're not getting stressed by heat of summer. And then in the springtime, they'll come out better than ever. They're putting all their energy into roots. Exactly. And that, you know, we know the root system of plants, that if they don't have a good root system, they're not going to thrive. They're not. So if we do these plantings in the fall, it's better for the long-term health of the plant. It'll do better in the long run. Well, it's a great time of year to buy plants. A lot of nurseries have their stuff on sale this time of year. So if you're going to buy a tree of any size, this is the time of year to do it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Well, those sales are well planned. Yeah. They are. Did you happen to go down to the Davis sale? No, I didn't, because I'm not buying any. It's so much fun. Oh, I bet it was. I have been down there in the past, and it's super fun. Quite a few Master Gardeners went this year. You know, there's the big one in May. That's their big one, and they have music, and it's super fun. It's an event. It is an event. It is an event. I think that's the one I went to before. There's two this time of year, and the one that was just last weekend. Last weekend? Yeah. And there's something about a bunch of gardeners being in one place. You could power a small city from the energy that's in that one location. Oh, man, yeah. The squeals and cries of delight, you know, abound. What I find neat about it is that complete strangers will come up and talk to you. Exactly. Have you grown this plant before? Which one do you think looks better? Do you think this one needs a lot of water? Yeah. It's really neat that people feel the freedom to just mingle with other gardeners. If you're at a Davis sale, you're a pretty serious gardener. You're pretty serious about your gardening. You're going there with specific needs. Wants. It's dangerous to not go there with specific needs. Yeah, because, oh, my. But they do have their inventory online. Oh, they do. Yeah. See, I wasn't aware of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can go, too. Oh, super cool. I was looking at, because there's one more sale this year on November 14th. There's their last sale of the year is November 14th at the UC Davis Arboretum. It's 9 to 1 on Saturday the 14th. Okay. Oh, November 14th. Yes. That's next weekend. I guess it would be. Yeah. A lot of the plants at that sale are like $5. Really? Yeah. Wow. It's the teaching nursery, and they're getting rid of all of their inventory. Well, because they're going to have a whole new crop of students that are going to create a whole other set of plants. Yeah. So they really want to get rid of their inventory. Yeah, I can believe it. I mean, even when they're not $5, they're like $15, which is like half the price of what you would pay at a nursery. Yeah, I remember that from when I went. Yeah, so that's on the 14th from 9 to 1. And if you haven't been there before, the university is super easy to find, and the Arboretum is super easy to find. There's a very large parking lot. They have carts there. So you walk into the Arboretum. It's free to get in. And you just pick up a cart and wheel it in. Now, I go through the inventory before I get there, which you can... You can see it online at arboretum.ucdavis.edu. And you'll see the little icon to look at the inventory. And it's kind of cool the way they do it because it will tell you exactly what table that plant is on. Wow. So you can map out your plan of attack. Yeah, because, you know, honestly, when I was there before, they go fast. They do. And you've got to snatch them all quick, so you're kind of running around. And I did not, we didn't look at the online plant list before we went, so we're just kind of walking around and we're seeing people that are very, very determined in their huts. I have a list, yeah. And I'm like, what's this all about? Yeah, they're all alphabetically and numerically labeled. Yeah, we were a little slow on certain items, but, you know, it's all a learning experience and it's all great fun. And there's always another plant sale to hit. Well, the last one, there was 122 possible plants on the list. Oh, danger, danger. This is not a... Danger, danger, danger, pocketbook. So if you don't plan ahead, you might miss something that you'd really like to have. Really, really want. So I stayed up late and went through all 122 plants, narrowed it down to about 25. And then I used AI to delve into those remaining plants to see how they would do in my location and what they needed to thrive. And so some of them are like, well, this is a bog plant. It doesn't do well in dry, well, like that one's off the list, right? And so I was able to get all but one of the plants that I went there for. Wow. And one of the helpers at the sale actually tracked me down at a different location in the arboretum because she had found that plant. Oh, darn. Go figure. Oh, now there's customer service for you. Really is. My dog. Yeah. Oh, that's super cool. They're typically fun people, you know, and with our plants, oh my, you know, I find gardeners to be quite generous. I think so too. And we love to get together, trade plants, you know, if you like iris, you know, you have to dig them up and thin them out every few years, well, about five years, or they stop blooming when their clumps get too thick. They won't bloom. Yeah. And, well, hello. Yeah. We want blooms. So we dig them up. We have all these extra ones. And if you don't have more space in your garden for them, it's like, what do you want to do? Oh, let's trade. And so, you know, you trade with another gardener for another iris color or another plant altogether. You know, it's fun to check out the offerings. Yeah. I think so too. And that's pretty cool. I love gardeners. Yeah. Generous. So the day of the sale, definitely don't miss it if there's some, you know, plants that you want. And they have really unusual plants that you do not see anywhere else. I bought three fig warts. Oh, yeah, that's not offered. It's not an, it's not a usual plant, however, it's a really important plant for butterflies. So there's certain butterflies that lay their eggs on that plant only. Yeah. It's funny how butterflies are. And that's not an unusual situation for butterfly reproduction. Yeah. It's a beautiful bush when it's growing. And it's tall and very green. It's like a vibrant green. And then if you're lucky enough to get caterpillars, they defoliate the entire thing. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. So those are the and that's what but I mean, you want the butterflies, the reason you buy the fig wart. You have to have caterpillars. Oh, I bet that must be quite surprising. Yeah. So you know, you've been successful if your fig wart doesn't have any leaves left. No leaves. Okay. Where some some leaf munching is okay. Oh, but oh, that'd be funny. I think that would be quite, quite good. And they had quite a lot of them. I think it's a little bit of an unknown plant and people are like, like, there's so many of those. Figworth is a terrible name. And unless you understand the plant, it's not one you're going to seek out. That's something that you do need to understand. Yeah. What is that? Oh. Oh, yeah. Here. Oh, my goodness. Go through those. Great. I've got the pictures of the double file viburnum finally loaded. Oh, it's the Shasta double file viburnum. Yeah. That is fantastic. I think it's viburnum tomentosa. Shasta double file viburnum. Yeah. So pretty. That was beautiful. And that let's see, here's here's a nice. See, I think it just grows like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's a beautiful plant. Isn't that beautiful? Yeah. Yeah. And, and, you know, they're white blooms. Oh, I love it. Oh, yeah. It kind of grows in like a shelf kind of style. If anybody's interested, the Shasta double file viburnum. Yeah. It's definitely worth spending some space in your garden for that. It's a very large shrub, like that eight foot tall. And, and, you know, probably some of them look pretty good, much like six foot wide. Yeah. But with all those white blooms, that nice green foliage, some vibrant azaleas around it or roadies, you know, it can be quite, quite beautiful. I think they grow in any, they don't need shade, for instance. Oh, no, no, no. Do they? No, they don't. What's it going to tell us? Yeah. And I think you just, you just plant them and you don't have to prune them or anything. Why do things just disappear on me? Now, my, I have a few viburnums and they do better as youngsters with regular water. Yeah, that's, yeah, that they're not one of those drought tolerant. They're not like a native that's... No, they're not native. You know, I, I have natives, but I'm not all native by any stretch. Me neither, but I buy more. I buy a whole lot more than I ever used to. And I found beautiful natives that I really like. And because I recognize it's extremely important to have that mix of natives for wildlife. Yeah, yeah. And pollinators and like that. We have our native insect population that needs certain native plants in order to reproduce. And so that's an important part of gardening is having that awareness of the natives that are, that are really, really needed. Yeah, and the habitat they provide. There's so many beautiful plants that are not native that, well, let's say I cannot resist. I think I have a healthy mix. Yeah. And I think that that's all I can ask for is a nice healthy mix. Because I just love my plants. And I, oh my goodness, I have this little styrax tree that I got from my girlfriend. I dug it up. She had a, you know, her main plant, main tree that she'd had for years. And I dug up one of the seedlings and brought it home. And now it's like 10 foot tall. It looks so, it's so pretty. I, you know, pruned it nicely. And in the springtime, it has nice green foliage and these little bells that, white bells that hang down, that's their flower. And they are so precious. I love that. 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So you can chop those leaves off, it'll grow again. You can just let them grow and then they will form a traditional looking cabbage in the middle. The China cabbage is not like a regular cabbage. It's long, beautiful green leaves and very delicate. So it doesn't form that tight mass of cabbage that you're normally thinking about. It's just a great plant. So if you want to eat it as a salad and cut it down young or let it grow, it's a wonderful plant. They have quite a bit of space. They're quite large. You need some space. You can't hear me? Now you can. Okay, I've got to stay right at my mic. Okay, thank you Pat. What else do I have out there? I've got lots of lettuce because they love the cold weather. I've got Brussels sprouts out there. The snap peas I've got out there. Quite a bit of stuff that is not over winter. Yeah, a lot of variety. I'm picturing yummy salads and you know side dishes. I love that. I make a side dish, and my daughter does the best one, side dish of Brussels sprouts for Thanksgiving. Yum, yum, yum. I tend to plant my vegetables pretty close together, though. I'm one of those people that reads the packet and then throws it away. Yeah, I'm probably not going to do that. It all works out. That's one of my favorite sayings. Hey, it all works out. Most of it, I plant about a foot apart. So the broccoli, the cauliflower, the leaves are touching, but not in a claustrophobic way. There's plenty of air circulation out there. That's cool. It's all doing pretty well. That's so fun. And now be sure and plant some of the cool weather loving, you know, annuals and perennials. Yes, gosh. Even with the veggies. Champagne poppies, if you have any, they are unbelievable right now. They are so beautiful. You don't think of poppies as a winter plant. No, no, you don't. You really don't. It seems like the spring in over the hills type, you know, because you say poppy, I automatically think of California poppy. Sure. Because well, I'm a native Californian. So, you know, what do we all grow up with the California poppy? Yeah. But there's so much more. There's so many gorgeous. Man, sometimes you can find at nurseries the poppy that it has purple. It's purple. Oh. And it's just like purple crepe paper. Oh, it self-seeds too, I believe. That I'm not certain of. Really well, I believe it does. Oh, wouldn't that be fabulous? Yeah, I believe it does. I love self-seeding flowers. They're fabulous because, you know, you get wonderfully surprised the following year and you didn't have to fork out any more money because, you know, we spend so much money on our plants. And if you like Cosmos, just let them go to seed. Oh, they're so cute. Yeah, yeah, they're great. I have a you only ever have to plant it once plant and that's Forget-Me-Nots. Yes. Oh my goodness. Another one. But they're easy to move. Easy, easy. They grow clumps. If they pop up somewhere you don't want them, you just pluck it out or move it. Yeah. No worries. Another one. Borage. Yes. Isn't Borage a great plant? Try getting rid of it. Yeah, you better like it if you plant it. But yeah, as a matter of fact, I think they're growing right now. I have one in my yard that started growing from a seed in the ground about a month ago and it's quite large now. I love them. Blue flowers. I love blue flowers. I got a thing for them. And Borage is nice because the deer don't get after it. I discovered that in my yard. Yeah, I love it. I think you don't want to put the leaves in a composter though. Oh, really? I've heard that word. Well, any plant that can regenerate from its own leaf, like a comfrey, for instance. Oh, well, yeah. Mint. Yeah. Oh, well, Mint's a whole experiment, a whole category unto itself. Yeah. It's like, keep it in a pot, please. Yeah. Well, a lot of people don't know that herbs have a really long lifespan. They're not just an annual that you're going to pull out. Yeah. Typically, you have them for many, many years. I think something like 12 years is not unusual for an herb. Well, you know, I have some Oreganos because I like to plant herbs all around my, in with everything. And I have some Oreganos, and my goodness, they just grow gangbusters. And I probably had those in for, oh, maybe eight years already. And man, I have to cut those all the way back several times a year. Yeah. And they need to be cut back right now because they're, you know, like two foot off where their base plant. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they would just go crazy. You do have to keep after them, but. And then, oh, I was on the air with another of our master gardeners, and she said she makes so cute little herb bouquets. Oh. Because, you know, their little flowers are so cute. I love the little Oregano flowers. And I thought that was really cute. Yeah. 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Join us each Sunday for 30 minutes of inspiration, motivation and education, all without manipulation. That's the Flotline with Rick Hughes every Sunday at 8am right here on KNCO News Talk 830. Now I hear music. Hello folks and welcome back to Master Gardeners and Friends Radio Show. I'm Master Gardener Christine Smith and I'm here with Master Gardener Sharon Curry. Yay! And we're having fun and we're talking gardening and hopefully y'all are listening and learning with us. Yeah. Because you know we, us Master Gardeners, we're plant crazy as a rule and we love to share what we've learned. We're learning every day ourselves. Oh absolutely. Every day I learn something new and it's fabulous. You know, keeps a person activated and motivated and wanting to move forward. I go to a lot of the classes that we teach at the Demonstration Garden. I go there myself to learn. To learn, yeah. You know, yeah I used to do that too when I was a new Master Gardener and put on a lot of those shows or shows. Workshops. Workshops too. Yeah the one we had last week was on composting and even though I took the Master Gardener class on composting, which was fantastic, it was several hours long, I still learned a lot from just our Master Gardener anecdotally talking about composting. You know compost, I mean it's a simple process but you know it's all about getting that, the quantities correct. Yeah. And there's more than one way to compost. There is. There really is. Hot and cold. I didn't realize that there was really an option there. The long compost, quick compost. And it's so good for reducing trash that goes to the landfill. Or you have to haul out to the green bin or whatever. Yeah. I love composting. It's just, it rocks my world because I have reduced my trash significantly. Yeah. And that makes my day. So I'm a big old recycler and composter. But no, I do the lazy composting. You know, I'm the slow roll. Me too. Yeah, I've got a, I went right out and bought two of the composter bins that they had there as an example. And they're just a big piece of plastic with a lot of perforations. Yeah. And then where they come together, there's little tabs that you can turn. You want to turn it over, you just open it up. And that's been a real game changer. Yeah, that's nice. It keeps it contained. It does. And therefore, it'll get hot faster when it's not, you know, doesn't get all spread out. See, I let, I might be a bad, but I, you know, I throw all food waste out there. And the raccoons and the skunks come through. And I figure, well, I'm helping those puppies out, you know, all winter long. I have no problem with that. And yeah, and they dig through, they stir it up for me, you know, the top levels. And I feel kind of good because I'm feeding the wildlife, you know, and the deer come through there too. Lizards, you'll get lizards going through there. Oh gosh, yeah, I've got more lizards than ever in my yard now. I'm so tickled. The other day, oh my god, I was out there bumping around doing things. And oh, there was this little baby lizard. Oh, it was maybe an inch long. It's like lizard in miniature. Oh my gosh. And it was the cutest thing. I just marveled at it. A couple days prior to that, I was out there bumping around and oh, I saw a very cool praying mantis. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was fun. That was fun. I you know, there's so much joy to be found out in the garden. If you just take the time to look. Exactly. You know, I like to, I joke and I say, Oh, you know, I'm out in my garden, I go out in the morning and have my cup of coffee because, you know, mama needs her coffee in the morning. No bones about that one. And so I'm out there waking up sipping my coffee, you know, listening to the birds. And, you know, just the day coming alive. And it's so fun to see what one sets the tone for the whole day. It does. It does. Yeah, absolutely. And when I have garden time, it's always a good time. And it always is uplifting. Yeah. And that's great. Yeah. Your garden kind of tells you what what it needs. Exactly. Yeah. Because you know, I go out there and if I see somebody that's wilted, okay, I'll be back out with the hose, we'll be throwing water on you. In the summertime, I go, I have my coffee in one hand and the hose in the other. Because in the summertime, it seems like everybody always needs to drink. This last summer, it was a lot of watering. Yeah. And, and the plants are always so happy, so darn happy. And now with all this cleanup, I'm just so excited about I'm feel excited about my yard instead of the dread of having to go out there and wrestle with blackberries myself. I'm not good with that. Well, what else I've got? Oh, frost cloth. Have we talked about frost cloth? Oh, not for a while. But that's a great topic. I'm gonna have to go buy some more, which is what made me think about it. And if you've got tender perennials, so there's some kinds of salvia, for instance, that yeah, they just quite manage, they just can't quite So I either dig them up and put them in the polytunnel, which I've done, or you can frostcloth them, and that keeps the worst away from the plant. It's amazing. Things like citrus, if you're in an extra cold spot or someplace that has high winds, it's a great idea to frostcloth your citrus. If it's real cold, you know, the old-fashioned big Christmas lights, those can also be draped around. I finally, I've had a Meyer lemon for years and years, and I used to do all of that. Is it in a pot? Yeah, in a pot, because I had to be able to move it around to protect it in the winter. And then it finally, it ended up where I had it under the eve, and it just kind of lived under the eve. But the deer like to eat on it, and so I, you know, I'm just, you get frustrated with the deer. So it's like, okay, I think it's time for me to give this puppy away, you know, let it go to somewhere, someone that can have it in the environment where it's not always having to be protected and, you know, watch out for the deer and yada yada. So I did. I gave it away, and the person I gave it to was so happy and so thankful, and she's great with plants, and she'll have it in a spot. There aren't any deer in town. Perfect! So it'll thrive, and it'll make them very happy. And I'm so tickled, because that makes me happy, because I know it went to a good home. There are some perks of living in town. Exactly. There are. There are. That's one of them. You don't have to sweat the deer. Yeah. And I used to fight with them and curse at them, and I thought, this is not good juju cursing in my garden, you know, not a good tone to say. So I decided, excuse me, I decided, well, I think it's time to throw that aspect out the window and just let it ride, live with them. And so those plants that get eaten by the deer, wee wee. That is a good note, though, about citrus that's out. You really do need to move it in. Yeah. They need to be protected. Before it gets much colder. Yeah, up here in the winter, it's just rather too cold for them. And it's sad when they get struck by the cold. Yeah. I have a 15-foot polytunnel greenhouse, and so I can fit a lot in there. Oh, gosh, yeah. But we're at 1,400 elevation, which is... Oh, that's low. Yeah, we don't get the harsh weather that we get up at the higher elevations. It can get really cold even in there. So I've had to frost cloth things inside my polytunnel before, but with the cost of plants and how much we love each individual one, it's just worth it. It's worth it. Exactly. And that's an individual thing. And you know, it's kind of amusing to me how my attitudes have changed as years pass and experience, you know, I have experienced seemingly every different kind of gardening situation through the years. And you know, I always try to learn from each experience and pull some, you know, vital tips out of every experience. And I just find wanting to be more aware of the nature around me and appreciate the nature around me and deal with my plants in that respect. You know, so I can't have any plants. I don't want plants that will get terrorized by the deer. And so I have found some wonderful alternatives. And two, I love conifers. And you know, there's so many wonderful dwarf and miniature conifers available these days. And deer never, never touch those. And so I have such a nice little collection and they're so cute. And I never have to worry about them getting munched out by the deer. And that makes things more peaceful for me in my, in my heart. And I know my plants aren't going to get chewed up. So we have to take another break. We'll be right back. Yeah, amen. Have you done all you can to protect your family, home, or business from theft and fire? 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With special guests, the second and fourth Mondays at 9 a.m. Brought to you by Mowl Paint and Glass, serving Nevada County since 1949. And Smarter Broadband, local, reliable, high-speed internet. Don't miss the voices, the stories, and the history that make our community unique. Right here on KNCO News Talk 830. Hello there and good morning. And welcome to Master Gardeners and Friends Radio Show. I'm Master Gardener Christine Smith. And Master Gardener Cheri Cree. And we're having fun talking plants here on the show. And if y'all have any questions or comments you want to share. Something about your yard or garden. Please give us a call. We'd love to chat with you. Our phone number is 530-477-5626. And we have a text line at 530-913-4685. Alrighty, on to... I thought we might talk about Dahlias. You know, they're so beautiful. It's another winter subject. And they're so, again, another plant that has so much variety. Oh gosh, they are. I have one called Bishop's Children. Oh, that sounds interesting. It's a bit unusual. It's not the big fancy dinner plate Dahlias that you might think about. It's more shrubby. And it's a late bloomer. So it's in flower right now. Oh, wow, yeah. The bees are all over it. Oh, I bet. And that's so wonderful to have a late bloomer. Because if you can extend the flowering season in your yard as much as possible, that gives wonderful chances for all the wildlife to drink up for winter. They're a high-value resource right now. So the bees are all... And they're a plain, open-faced flower. They're not like a big, fancy, fluffy flower. So the bees can get right to what they want to. Yeah, they get right at that nectar. The flowers are orange and pink. And it's really... I'm not going to say it's a beautiful plant. Uh-huh. Because it's more shrubby. But when it does bloom, the flowers come out just a few at a time. Oh, really? It's not just like this mass of flowers. Suddenly the whole thing's in bloom. No, they pop out a little at a time, which just extends their ability for the bees to come. But they are a dahlia. And they are a bulb plant. Bulbous. So some people leave their dahlias in the ground and overwinter them. And for some, I think that's just fine. Oh, sure. Depending on the location, the soil, where they are. Exactly. It has to be a location that has excellent drainage. Because that's the thing about bulbs in the ground in wintertime. If it's a soggy area, doggone, bulbs are going to rot. Yeah, they definitely are. Pretty much any of them. But if your location has good drainage and it doesn't get too cold... So mulch, everybody, mulch. You can grow them in pots, too. Yeah. There's no reason you can't grow... Absolutely. And as a matter of fact, the bishop's children would be an excellent large pot plant. But I take mine up. Oh, you do? Wow. So it's kind of hard with the bishop's children because they're still blooming. So you have to wait until the first frost. So you very carefully dig them up. And you'll get this massive ball of bulbs. And what you have to do is brush all the dirt off. Check them for rot. Oh, yeah. You don't want to have any that have a hole in them or rotting or old or shoveled up. Because the borers get in there. And it's funky. And so you want to get that off. Wrap it up and get it off your property. Yeah, take it out. And I wrap mine in newspaper. And just put them in a... I have a basement. Oh, nice. So I have a cement basement. So down there is about 52. Oh, perfect. So I put them in a little box. And just put them down there. And they'll dry out over the winter. And then in the spring, take them back out. Just like you got a nice delivery from bricks. And separate them out into clumps. You know, that one clump you dig up will become two or three clumps. Oh, easily, yeah. In the spring. That's the thing I love about bulbs is they multiply underground. I thought that you could just leave. Oh, yeah. Because I figure I didn't have enough work planting them the first time. You know, I don't dig up bulbs. Unless I'm separating them. The daffodils, you just leave them in. You just leave them on the ground. They're awesome. They're very hardy. So hardy. They're so doggone hardy. Iris are tough plants. They're one of my favorites. And you get so much beauty. Oh, the beauty of iris. I wish I was a bulb planter. I'm really not. Other than Dahlia's, I'm really not. You know, I demand a little bit more for my plants. So if they just bloom once. And they're alive for like a week. And then they die. Well, that was a lot of work for nothing. A lot of work for that one week of bloom. Okay. You know, the good news now is there are many varieties of re-blooming iris. So they'll re-bloom. So again, that's the thing. What to look for. What do you want out of your plant? Again, that just cements. I always have recommended to folks. Research. Research. Do the research of the plant. Identify your planting area. Your microclimate. Because we have them. And we have many microclimates within our own property. I know I do. And so, you know, research the right plant for that particular location. It's classic. You know, right plant, right place. I have a garden book. And that's its name. And there's no truer statement. That's true. Get the right plant in the right place and it'll thrive and you'll have joy from it for years and years. That's very true. Sometimes that's trial and error. Sometimes it is. But it's really amazing with a little bit of research how much better your odds are. Well, if the plant tag says shade, it really needs to go in the shade. Yeah. Don't plant that in full sun. Don't plant that in full sun. Especially here in Nevada County. Because our summers are so incredibly hot and harsh. It's so hot, so dry. Yeah. You've got to pay attention. 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That dream eventually took him to Nashville, where he built a career as a singer, songwriter, and producer. Johnny Houlihan grew up in Nevada City, graduated from Nevada Union, and spent his teenage years listening to KNCO, dreaming about music. That dream eventually took him to Nashville, where he built a career as a singer, songwriter, and producer. Johnny Houlihan grew up in Nevada City, graduated from Nevada Union, and spent his teenage years listening to KNCO, dreaming about music. That dream eventually took him to Nashville, where he built a career as a singer, songwriter, and producer. Johnny Houlihan grew up in Nevada City, graduated from Nevada Union, and spent his teenage years listening to KNCO, dreaming about music. That dream eventually took him to Nashville, where he built a career as a singer, songwriter, and producer. Johnny Houlihan grew up in Nevada City, graduated from Nevada Union, and spent his teenage years listening to KNCO, dreaming about music. That dream eventually took him to Nashville, where he built a career as a singer, songwriter, and producer. Johnny Houlihan grew up in Nevada City, graduated from Nevada Union, and spent his teenage years listening to KNCO, dreaming about music. That dream eventually took him to Nashville, where he built a career as a singer, songwriter, and producer. Grass Valley, we're throwing a party, and you don't even have to clean your house. Just come to ours. I'm Loren Fowler. And I'm Christy. Join us this Saturday, noon to two, for the grand opening of Fowler Flooring. We've got food, raffle prizes, and a whole showroom of possibilities. Bring a friend, grab a bite, enter the raffles, and finally see what the floors you've been saving on your phone look like in person. Explore beautiful hardwood, cozy carpet, luxury vinyl, and laminate. Ask questions and get inspired. Or just come meet us. We're a local family, and we'd love to get to know yours. Find Fowler Flooring in the Fowler Center in Grass Valley, right across from B&C Ace Hardware. Take a peek at fowlerflooringgrassvalley.com. Then put noon to two this Saturday on your calendar. And come help us make our grand opening grand. Welcome back to Master Gardeners and Friends Radio Show. We're on the last segment. I'm Master Gardener Christine Smith. And Master Gardener Sharon Curry. And we've been having so much fun chatting. And do you have any ideas? I like. Well, I wanted to tell you how obsessive I am about seeds. Oh, okay. Let's talk obsession. For all you people out there who have a million seed packets laying around. Don't feel bad. I was listening to a podcast by, do you know who Joe the Gardener is? Mm hmm. Yeah. So he has a really interesting podcast. He gets some great people on that show. Oh, nice. Really good speakers on his show. But he was talking about his seed obsession. And so he has a system that I have adopted. Oh, and actually, I know a couple of other people who do something similar. And basically, you get a container, a plastic box, let's just say, like a tote box, shoebox size. Oh, yeah, like a shoebox size. Well, I have multiple boxes. But you want it to be a size that you can easily pick up and leave through. Sure. And so you have your seed packets, but you're going to put those seed packets inside another packet. So you can buy, you can buy them on Amazon. Uh huh. And you can write on the front of it, whatever's inside there. And you use a numerical system. Uh huh. So each packet has a number 12345. Doesn't matter what's in it. I'm just going to number these packets numerically. Uh huh. Then you're going to have your list. Uh huh. Of 12345. However many you have. Those represent the bags. use up number 52. Uh huh. That's just a blank spot. Your next seed you buy is going to go into that number 52 spot. You adjust your Excel spreadsheet. Yeah. And you can even make notes. How did it do that year? That see that's the thing about having that paper trail or computer trail as it is these days. It's all to me. I like to make notes about how plants do because you know, I'll plant the same plant in different spots in my yard. Right. And just to see how how it does. It did better in shade or whatever. Exactly. Yeah. Or it didn't germinate. Yeah. In which case you're just going to throw it out. Yeah. Yeah. So something else will go in that spot. Bingo. Yeah. But I find that to be the best way to organize your seeds. Know what you have. Yeah. And when the catalogs start coming in. Oh my. You can look at your list and go, you know what? I've already got three of those. Yeah. Because we we always buy these with the best intention. But sometimes we get carried away. No. All the time we get carried away. Yeah. Well, and seeds come in such gigantic quantities. Oftentimes. Yes. You're not going to plant all 50 of those. Yeah. So you're going to have some from, you know, the last time. And so I find a little seed pack as you can write on them. Have your numerical system. I like to write the number at the top, the name of the plant, where I got it from, the seed company that I got it from, and the date that I got it. Some people even go like to the lot number and stuff like that, which I don't need to do. But if you ever want to reorder it, knowing where you got it from is really important. Yeah. Yeah. So it's kind of a little historical of what you've done and what worked and what didn't work. That's great. That's great idea. Yeah. So that that's so that's worked out really well for me. And it's fun organizing your seeds. Yeah. And very workable, and it helps you keep track of them. So you don't end up with, holy cow, this is a 10 year old packet. What's this doing in here? Get rid of it. Yeah, just yeah, just get rid of it. Or questionable things that people have given you. How old is it? You don't know. Yeah, you don't know. Yeah, that's true. So that sounds like a really good, it's a great winter project. Absolutely. Yeah, that that'll be fun. I'm, yeah, I'm my next my next Excel spreadsheet is going to be about plants that do tolerate black, excuse me, black walnuts. Oh, gosh, is there any? Yeah, surprising amount. I was shocked. My my neighbor has a black walnut. And, you know, we got to talking about it. And I said, Oh, I'll make you up a little list. And so, you know, you can't have horses in your black walnuts. Oh, it's poisonous to horses, their feet. Yeah, I'll be damned. Yeah, I did not know that. Yeah. Oh, good to know. I don't do horses anymore. But there is something in the ground. Yeah, that's your point. There's something in the ground. Yeah, it's the chemical jugglans. J-U-G-L-A-N-S. And yeah, it's nasty stuff. So what what does grow? It inhibits plant growth. Really? The list? Go for it. I got the top of your head. Right off the top of my head. Oh, she mean. Anyway, have some with it. You know, irises. Oh, no kidding. Irises can tolerate the the the Juglands and and I learned too that the portion of the black walnut that carries the most of the chemical are the husks of the walnuts and and and and the leaves so you clean that cleaned up and you're you're going to be miles ahead half the battle your plants will be happier but yeah there's many annuals perennials shrubs and trees that can cohabit I did not know that okay yeah now would they also grow underneath the oak tree oh the the any of those plants are they compatible with oak oh oh sure yeah but see you don't really want to put now a bunch of plants under here oak trees because people do but I know they do darn it make it a nice woodland open area under your oak trees the plant they'll be happier and they'll live longer and they don't want to be watered so right they don't want to be watered and see when you plant plants you got a water and most people they want to put their azaleas or rhododendrons and hello their regular water plants yeah that is way too much water for oaks yeah the oaks are designed and thrive on no water other than mother nature right and and I wonder how they will fare this winter if we get a lot of rain a downpour yeah I'll be I see I have black oaks at my place and I have beautiful they're beautiful oh my gosh I love I love black oaks I love them I don't think I've ever seen any here in this this part of California so that oh so we're out where you are come cruise around Paredale yeah see lots of great I love Paredale me too because I love the big trees yeah I think for gardeners it's a fabulous location a lot of yes a lot of people have fabulous gardens out there yeah and the community the new community gardens out there right I'm the next block over yeah yeah I drive past that every day I wish there was more community gardens that would be a nice thing yeah I think that needs to happen it's it's I think that is something that has to that that would probably work best as like grassroots type people getting together kind of like this one came together yeah and you know it with awareness yeah then can I think more can yeah be created and people can't people can grow their own food yeah you know food sustainability is I think it's because scarcity is becoming a real problem for people as a matter of fact I'm teaching a workshop on that next year oh good deal that'll be a great workshop might get me rest --- end of transcript ---